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23563 Mad7Scientist BCB 1042 2013-04-13 01:59:20 -2 Bandwagon rating: User may not honor a lockin if the value of BTC being purchesed tanks. phrog sold 20 BTC (@$245) to BCB and BCB requested a price lock in. BTC tanked, BCB backed out leaving phrog with an $800 loss. $800 must have been worth less than the neg rating and they worked it out. The whole thing was a big ordeal that should have never happened.
21379 Mad7Scientist episking- 499 2013-03-11 19:29:57 3 Bought 12 BTC from me citm. I sent first.
31047 Mad7Scientist BigBitz 481 2013-10-20 20:49:34 3 Bought more than a day's wage of BTC from me with PayPal. I sent first.
12999 Mad7Scientist Michail1 439 2012-07-24 05:29:51 1 Bought 8 BTC from me with PayPal
25197 Mad7Scientist DoctorBTC 416 2015-09-04 15:02:21 3 ~.17 BTC on 5/2013, then 1 BTC on 7/2013 from me with PP. .74 BTC PP 9/2015
31264 Mad7Scientist Blazed 375 2014-11-29 04:08:20 4 2013-11-18 CITM ~2 BTC, .5 BTC. $400 worth. 2013-11-30 $400 CITM. 2014-11-28 1 BTC CITM. Sent last...
9583 Mad7Scientist ne0futur 348 2012-06-08 00:32:06 2 Bought 10 +10 BTC from for PPUSD. Sent first.
7058 Mad7Scientist imsaguy 323 2011-12-03 21:56:12 3 33+ BTC sold. Multiple purchases from me.
17019 Mad7Scientist Azelphur 256 2012-11-06 22:25:02 1 Bought 3.3 BTC from me with PayPal
7867 Mad7Scientist gigavps 254 2011-12-19 18:43:09 2 10 BTC, 38 BTC PPUSD. sent first. Great buyer. A+
17125 Mad7Scientist bonks 240 2012-11-08 17:43:46 2 Bought a 100 pack of high quality JVC CD-R discs with 100 year data retention for me in exchange for BTC.
12994 Mad7Scientist Ssateneth 235 2012-07-24 04:49:40 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal
7998 Mad7Scientist danieldaniel 230 2011-12-03 21:54:53 1 Good buyer 10 BTC. PPUSD. sent first.
14471 Mad7Scientist MBS 224 2012-09-07 18:51:16 2 Sold me 4x 8GB Lexar USB Flash memory drives
6701 Mad7Scientist yossarian 219 2011-08-13 18:28:06 1 5 BTC $50 PPUSD sent first
11149 Mad7Scientist aethero 202 2012-10-14 04:16:22 3 Bought 10 BTC with PP, 15.86 CITM, 2.75 PP, 8.89 PP
20170 Mad7Scientist arij 195 2013-01-31 17:53:55 1 Bought ~5 BTC total from me with PP
37629 Mad7Scientist Cusipzzz 192 2015-03-09 20:25:26 -5 Censored anti vaccine chat in #bitcoin-otc, but most other off topic chat is okay.
16071 Mad7Scientist starsoccer 191 2012-10-21 14:30:34 2 Bought 1.09 on 2012-10-13, and 4.5 btc from me with PayPal.
6345 Mad7Scientist mircea_popescu 181 2011-07-23 01:21:39 1 Good transaction. Sent me $34.86 PPUSD first for 2.6 BTC.
13782 Mad7Scientist deego 165 2012-08-18 02:48:18 2 Showed me what ING DIRECT is. Direct deposit to my back without PAYPAL! Sold him 5 BTC!
33770 Mad7Scientist csm 162 2014-02-14 21:15:10 1 Bought me a ~$17 item on Amazon. I sent first.
10069 Mad7Scientist jcpham 156 2012-07-26 20:30:19 3 Bought 25 & 6 BTC from me with PPUSD. Good trustworthy buyer.
7210 Mad7Scientist noitev 142 2011-09-20 03:19:12 2 29 BTC moneypak. sent first
32151 Mad7Scientist markus 138 2013-11-29 17:05:40 1 Found ATI catalyst 11.11 linux64 for me for 0.001 BTC. Insistent on getting paid!
2610 Mad7Scientist EvanR 124 2011-05-17 20:42:45 1
5998 Mad7Scientist csshih 117 2011-07-06 20:50:15 1 Good transaction 5 BTC $75 PPUSD he sent first
16020 Mad7Scientist TheButterZone 107 2013-02-19 21:20:20 2 On Thu Oct 11 22:29:59 2012 Bought .8 BTC from me with PP. Jan 31 2013 bought 6 BTC with PP. Bought 3 BTC PP.
31855 Mad7Scientist AriGold 106 2013-11-22 21:05:22 2 ~$600 CITM. Sent first.
9828 Mad7Scientist bitcoinTrader 104 2012-03-19 17:00:31 1 Bought 16 BTC from me for paypal
32149 Mad7Scientist congregate 103 2013-11-29 16:52:13 1 $50 PP for my BTC
31546 Mad7Scientist tencevad 102 2013-11-14 06:49:53 2 Bought several months pay in 3rd world wages worth of BTC from me with PP
8477 Mad7Scientist smickles 93 2012-01-05 02:28:52 1 created a lavabit.com email for me (I couldn't use my IP again for 24 hours)
8781 Mad7Scientist T3mpn4me 93 2012-01-24 22:47:19 1 Easy payment 3 BTC PPUSD. sent first.
8889 Mad7Scientist paulzag 92 2012-02-01 16:08:47 1 Easy payment PPUSD. 3 BTC.
20171 Mad7Scientist miernik 91 2013-01-31 16:45:50 1 Paid me BTC to buy something for him.
38184 Mad7Scientist HoMM 91 2015-12-10 17:10:45 1 2015-12-10 0.24BTC PayPal he sent first. Smooth.
38168 Mad7Scientist tweeeaks 90 2015-12-05 04:45:26 3 2015-11-22 my .5 BTC his PP USD good trade he sent first. 2015-12-4 My .69 BTC for more of his PP USD. he sent first
23582 Mad7Scientist joecool 85 2013-04-10 19:48:39 2 Bought something from a site for me with some of my BTC change that suddenly became worth a whole lot
6588 Mad7Scientist osmosis 83 2011-08-07 23:07:35 2 Bought 8 BTC $72 PPUSD sent last
15664 Mad7Scientist phrog 79 2013-12-02 17:27:49 2 2012-10-3: Bought 4 BTC from me with PayPal using d...e@b...ed.net. .5 BTC PP trade
16086 Mad7Scientist savetheinternet 73 2012-10-14 04:01:56 2 Bought .5 BTC from me with PayPal and gave me a little extra to be nice
21124 Mad7Scientist Aaron_TangCryp 65 2013-03-05 01:51:37 1 bought 3 btc from me with paypal
31111 Mad7Scientist Apocalyptic 59 2013-10-24 01:35:35 1 Bought more than a westerner's day's wage for skilled trade worth of BTC from me with paypal. sent first.
13765 Mad7Scientist kreal 56 2012-08-17 18:09:15 1 Bought 6 BTC from me with PayPal.
7965 Mad7Scientist Framedragger 52 2011-11-30 23:16:53 1 Good transaction 15 BTC PPUSD sent first.
19196 Mad7Scientist camolist 52 2012-12-29 21:58:33 2 Ordered something for me from a major supplier's website. Good price.
12594 Mad7Scientist boonies4u 51 2012-07-13 13:03:43 1 Bought 8 BTC from me with PP.
31680 Mad7Scientist broz 51 2013-11-18 22:31:48 1 Sent me $100 PP for BTC
25346 Mad7Scientist Sleepnbum 48 2013-05-14 19:06:14 1 Ordered something for me ~0.5 BTC. Sent first.-
16021 Mad7Scientist dparrish 47 2012-10-12 05:30:10 1 Bought 1.5 BTC from me with PayPal
38533 Mad7Scientist darsie 46 2017-01-26 14:45:33 1 Helped me figure out that an unverified PP account can receive payments from friends and family using that sending option. eBay sale payments also work with up to a 21 day hold.
4451 Mad7Scientist tiner 43 2011-06-08 19:29:16 1 Good transaction. Sent first. 1 BTC $30
36729 Mad7Scientist RBecker 42 2014-09-14 16:55:34 2 Ordered ~$59 of stuff from Amazon for me today with BTC.
9844 Mad7Scientist speed_racer8 40 2012-03-20 01:09:36 1 Bought 7.3 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent first.
30994 Mad7Scientist dignork 39 2013-10-18 16:20:18 1 made me a complicated one line bash script and I gave some BTC change
38151 Mad7Scientist mxtm 38 2015-10-25 00:40:05 2 ~0.4 BTC CITM all went well. I sent 1/3 first.
31695 Mad7Scientist opello 37 2013-11-19 01:52:01 1 Sent me $40 PP for BTC
31736 Mad7Scientist encalibur 35 2013-11-19 15:21:43 2 Woke me up early with express mail from Canada. $200 for my BTC. Sent first.
38051 Mad7Scientist cc1337 35 2015-12-21 21:20:39 2 2015-8-15 Bought .1 BTC from me with PP. 2015-11-28 my ~.38 BTC for his CITM. 2015-12-16 ~.43 BTC for his CITM. He sent first..
13081 Mad7Scientist serp 33 2012-07-26 18:45:36 1 Bought 3 BTC from me for PayPal
3955 Mad7Scientist croleva 32 2011-06-05 03:45:35 2 Buying 1 BTC for $18 in my PayPal. Good fast transaction. Send last.
6524 Mad7Scientist eremes 32 2011-08-06 03:41:46 2 9 BTC total paid PPUSD. Sent first.
7740 Mad7Scientist chex 32 2011-11-11 19:51:24 2 Fast transaction 4 BTC PPUSD. sent first
9720 Mad7Scientist CaptainDDL 32 2012-03-15 22:22:42 1 Bought 10 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent First.
33099 Mad7Scientist Elio19 30 2014-01-07 19:05:09 1 Got the balm free sample. I thought the $1 stamps were 1 cent stamps at first! No return address!
13781 Mad7Scientist lewis713 28 2012-08-18 03:17:35 1 Bought 1.5, 0.5 BTC from me with PayPal..
37630 Mad7Scientist TheLordOfTime 28 2015-03-09 20:28:06 -5 Under the IRC nick teward, censored anti vaccine chat in #bitcoin-otc, but most other off topic chat is okay.
5365 Mad7Scientist DoomDumas 26 2011-06-18 04:19:19 2 Good transaction 5 BTC @ $15 PPUSD. Send First.
20704 Mad7Scientist Crontaur 24 2013-07-22 20:47:14 3 2013-2-19: Bought two and a half BTC from me with PP. PP email: b*e@h*l.com | Bought 1 BTC from me with PP
21306 Mad7Scientist bitvoix 24 2013-03-09 02:06:36 2 8 BTC for US bank deposit
31542 Mad7Scientist dna6a 24 2013-11-14 05:57:48 1 Bought 0.15 btc with PP
10764 Mad7Scientist TehZomBro 23 2012-05-04 16:53:50 2 Sent payment in the mail for 10 BTC. Sent first. Good trade!
10267 Mad7Scientist neonindian 22 2012-04-12 03:20:21 1 Bought 3 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent first smooth transactoin.
14480 Mad7Scientist puma1337 22 2012-09-07 20:43:02 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal.
25611 Mad7Scientist veox 22 2013-05-22 16:41:28 1 Bought 1/4 BTC with PP from me.
5891 Mad7Scientist waterises 20 2011-07-01 21:46:45 2 bought 5 BTC $85 PPUSD he sent first
9136 Mad7Scientist spawn- 20 2012-06-08 00:26:41 -3 owes me ~$90 says his PP account was frozen for 180 days and he has no cash to send me. He did send me some other money he owed after his primary account froze.
26006 Mad7Scientist p-town-lights 20 2013-06-03 01:51:28 1 ~.1 coins bought from me with PP
21149 Mad7Scientist gaantr2 19 2013-03-05 17:55:24 1 Bought 1 BTC with PP from s*ft@gmail.com
4179 Mad7Scientist jonnyfunfun 18 2011-06-06 16:05:28 2 Good fast transaction. Send last. 0.80 BTC
9618 Mad7Scientist shdzz 18 2012-03-11 15:38:08 1 Good transaction bought 15 BTC PPUSD from me. Sent first.
20054 Mad7Scientist x0Jakeyboy0x 18 2013-01-28 06:31:51 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PP from using m*a@a*a.com
9821 Mad7Scientist llanox 17 2012-06-27 04:03:29 3 Bought 8.161, 3, 0.6 BTC from me with PayPal
13078 Mad7Scientist sebicas 17 2012-07-26 18:28:48 1 Bought 5 BTC from me with PayPal
11590 Mad7Scientist Emo003 16 2012-06-09 22:41:13 1 Bought 5 BTC from me with PayPal. Sent first.
12470 Mad7Scientist nimda 16 2012-07-09 13:32:28 1 Bought 3.15 BTC from me. Sent first.
6975 Mad7Scientist gfinn 15 2011-09-01 19:54:06 1 Good transaction. sent first.
10620 Mad7Scientist BlackBison 15 2012-04-28 00:46:21 1 Bought 2 BTC from me for PayPal using dav(...)da@hotmail.co.uk. Sent first.
6998 Mad7Scientist neo2 14 2011-09-02 23:45:45 1 Good transaction 6 BTC. Sent first.
13084 Mad7Scientist mike2381 14 2012-07-26 19:17:08 1 Bought 6 BTC from me with PayPal.
7404 Mad7Scientist micols 13 2011-10-12 14:02:51 3 Got my $20 in some Al foil from Denmark! Sent last. Trustworthy!
9719 Mad7Scientist cheebydi 13 2012-03-15 22:20:25 1 Bought 6 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent first
12093 Mad7Scientist djabbour 13 2012-06-26 04:04:43 1 Bought 6 BTC with PayPal.
9840 Mad7Scientist chwergy 12 2012-03-19 22:28:05 1 Bought 8 BTC from me for PPUSD. sent first.
31699 Mad7Scientist meek 12 2013-11-19 02:16:52 1 Sent me $30 PP for BTC
7345 Mad7Scientist murph 11 2011-10-05 17:58:51 1 Fast transation PPUSD. sent first.
14464 Mad7Scientist RickLandman 10 2012-09-07 18:17:47 1 Bought 5 BTC from me with PayPal
20701 Mad7Scientist eleet89 10 2013-03-05 17:51:58 2 Previous trade that was overwritten by this one. Bought 1 BTC with PP from s*ft@gmail.com
32204 Mad7Scientist orthro 10 2013-12-01 15:59:39 1 Bought 0.06 BTC with PP
6770 Mad7Scientist quellhorst 9 2011-08-16 19:53:17 1 Good sale. 5 BTC PPUSD. sent first
6997 Mad7Scientist DarkFiction 9 2011-09-02 23:38:20 1 Good transaction 6 BTC. Sent first.
11916 Mad7Scientist HighSpeedLowDrag 9 2012-06-20 05:52:37 1 Bought 1 BTC from me with PayPal
14467 Mad7Scientist blkmt 9 2012-09-07 18:27:41 1 Bought 1.5 BTC from me with PayPal.
26475 Mad7Scientist kevinchan11 9 2013-06-16 21:30:58 1 bought .1BTC from me with PP
15662 Mad7Scientist zor_ 8 2012-10-04 13:51:16 1 Bought 1 BTC from me with PayPal from ia...88@hotmail.co.uk
7417 Mad7Scientist anton000 7 2011-10-15 03:32:51 1 Good transaction $20 PPUSD 5 BTC. Sent first.
7868 Mad7Scientist macintosh264 7 2011-11-22 19:46:14 1 1 BTC PPUSD sent first
10186 Mad7Scientist c1b3rshad3 7 2012-05-09 16:27:31 1 This guy is new and wants to buy coins with PayPal. Keep in mind that PayPal related ratings don't mean anything until about 30 days since that's how long it often takes the owner of a stolen account to find out about it. If you trade I encourage you to record the amount traded and the PayPal email used. If later on he sends from a different PP account it's probably a stolen one.
16527 Mad7Scientist TheGent 7 2012-10-25 16:26:41 1 Free thinker. Sees the overall scheme of things. Doesn't want someone to point him to a several page tutorial when a one sentence answer would do.
30996 Mad7Scientist JGuest 7 2013-10-18 16:59:45 1 Bought about 1/4 BTC from me with PP
31538 Mad7Scientist lotek72 7 2013-11-14 05:47:31 1 Bought 0.06 BTC PP
6025 Mad7Scientist dialektik 6 2011-07-07 13:08:40 1 Good trade. 2 BTC @ $16 PPUSD. I sent last.
9717 Mad7Scientist dothackers 6 2012-03-19 21:49:31 1 Bought 9.1 + 6 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent first.
9767 Mad7Scientist Zommy 6 2012-03-16 23:21:29 1 Bought 10 BTC from me with PPUSD. Sent first.
15661 Mad7Scientist Gweebo 6 2012-10-04 00:29:30 1 Bought 3 BTC from me with PayPal with email dj...bo@gmail.com
21153 Mad7Scientist Sparro 6 2013-03-05 19:01:56 1 Bought 1/2 a BTC from me with PP, using s*wc@hotmail.com
37984 Mad7Scientist mike179 6 2015-07-16 21:55:40 1 $10 PP he sent first.
38075 Mad7Scientist toldixxbeam 6 2015-08-25 04:18:41 1 .57 BTC PP he sent first. Checked out his localbitcoins account. Ran in to the 24h PP hold under review problem.
6858 Mad7Scientist noobcoin 5 2011-09-27 18:40:52 3 Good buyer sent PPUSD 18 BTC total so far
7089 Mad7Scientist Aqua-pana 5 2011-10-15 18:35:23 2 Good buyer sold for PPUSD
9825 Mad7Scientist LordCanti 5 2012-03-19 05:27:09 1 Bought 2 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent First.
10489 Mad7Scientist lux 5 2012-04-22 21:40:07 1 Bought 3 BTC from me for PPUSD
11865 Mad7Scientist Lacertilian 5 2012-06-19 00:11:26 1 sold 30 BTC paid by personal check.
13086 Mad7Scientist lessless 5 2012-07-26 19:36:00 1 Bought 2 bTC from me with PayPal
18132 Mad7Scientist alex_fun 5 2012-11-30 00:42:45 1 potential business partner
32153 Mad7Scientist ispirto 5 2013-12-01 15:38:16 1 Sent me ~$32 PP, $50 PP for BTC.
6996 Mad7Scientist imanc 4 2011-09-02 23:10:58 1 Good transaction 6 BTC. Sent first.
11540 Mad7Scientist Silyn2 4 2012-09-19 03:31:12 2 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal on 2012-6-7. Bought 2.5 BTC from me with PayPal on 2012-9-18.
31677 Mad7Scientist joltman 4 2013-11-18 21:51:51 1 sent me $30 PP for BTC
9773 Mad7Scientist BicycleHead 3 2012-03-17 03:59:00 1 Bought 8 BTC from me for PPUSD. Sent first.
10465 Mad7Scientist isoman2kx 3 2012-04-21 19:48:39 1 Bought 2 BTC for PPUSD. Sent first.
10490 Mad7Scientist awesomeo 3 2012-04-22 21:40:19 1 Bought 3 BTC from me for PPUSD
10494 Mad7Scientist bitbitcoin78 3 2012-04-22 22:09:35 1 Bought 2.4 BTC from me with PayPal. Sent First.
14483 Mad7Scientist mannkind 3 2012-09-07 21:43:36 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal.
14565 Mad7Scientist dillona 3 2012-09-10 03:02:04 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal.
14932 Mad7Scientist munkmonkey 3 2012-09-18 21:41:48 1 Bought 1 BTC with PayPal from me using Mic*son@gmail.com
20051 Mad7Scientist carryon 3 2013-01-28 04:31:43 1 Bought 1/2 a BTC from me with PayPal.
27025 Mad7Scientist ezoteria 3 2013-07-02 21:41:17 1 Bought .22 btc from me with PP.
4799 Mad7Scientist Neocryptek 2 2011-06-10 19:18:24 1 Bought 1 BTC $24 PPUSD. Send first
6352 Mad7Scientist coran007 2 2011-07-23 15:45:36 1 Bought an XFX Radeon 5850 for 13.5 BTC. He sent first.
7135 Mad7Scientist blacktoe 2 2011-09-13 18:17:26 1 Good transaction 4 btc PPUSD. sent first.
8117 Mad7Scientist _anti 2 2011-12-12 17:14:25 1 Bought 8 BTC from me PPUSD. Sent first.
14563 Mad7Scientist kalligator 2 2012-09-10 02:56:21 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal.
14718 Mad7Scientist mimeyy 2 2012-09-13 03:03:12 1 Bought 1.5 BTC from me with PayPal
20045 Mad7Scientist tomconpsk 2 2013-01-28 03:42:27 1 Bought 1/2 a BTC from me with PayPal using c{...}4@gmail.com
4351 Mad7Scientist daisukii 1 2011-06-08 04:54:34 1 Fast transaction. $30 PPUSD 1BTC. Sent first.
8088 Mad7Scientist anti 1 2011-12-09 23:34:33 1 Bought 8 BTC PPUSD. sent first.
9842 Mad7Scientist eph 1 2012-03-20 00:55:00 1 Bought 7 BTC from me for PPUSD. sent first.
11146 Mad7Scientist chango 1 2012-05-24 02:19:29 1 Bought 2 BTC from me with PayPal using agen...ngo@gmail.com. ADVISORY: Remember PayPal chargebacks often take 30 days to occur! Sending from different paypal accounts suggests accounts may be stolen and you are dealing with a scammer!
14717 Mad7Scientist lyth0s 1 2012-09-13 02:47:26 1 Bought 1 BTC from me with PayPal
14925 Mad7Scientist Malophor 1 2012-09-18 20:11:42 1 Bought 1.5 BTC from me with PayPal using st*e@infin*bit.com
26476 Mad7Scientist gato 1 2013-06-16 21:31:42 1 bought .2BTC from me with PP
31540 Mad7Scientist MarkLuden 1 2013-11-14 05:53:38 1 Bought ~0.05 BTC with PP
31761 Mad7Scientist Avacc 1 2013-11-20 05:58:26 1 His $30 PP for BTC
32586 Mad7Scientist PlotCitizen 1 2013-12-14 23:50:50 1 Bought .011 BTC with PP
38091 Mad7Scientist kopykat 1 2015-09-01 22:56:02 1 Sent him .1 BTC for paypal. He sent first.
7131 Mad7Scientist eamon -2 2011-09-13 15:27:03 1 Good trade 6.4 BTC. sent first.
9585 Mad7Scientist astana -3 2012-03-08 23:56:29 1 Bought 2 BTC from me PPUSD. sent first. Not identified during trade, used different nick.
16620 Mad7Scientist coyotte508 -7 2012-10-27 18:40:09 1 Bought 1.4 BTC from me with PayPal.
26009 Mad7Scientist mbff -7 2013-06-03 03:03:35 1 Bought ~.08 BTC from me with PP
23859 Mad7Scientist Blitz- -11 2013-11-30 22:06:21 -5 nigga owes me $90 bucks
9660 Mad7Scientist cal1fub3ralle5 -12 2012-03-30 21:14:50 -5 UPDATE: CHARGEBACK 3-30-12 of $60 (one of the transactions). Bought 24.81 BTC from me for PPUSD total so far. Sent first. Also known as synx419 (because of a temporarily lost passphrase) and has an eBay account eaglesfan8968344(13)
14722 Mad7Scientist btclr -15 2012-09-13 04:58:32 1 Bought .628 BTC from me with PayPal from sunn...in@gmail.com PP account
30812 Mad7Scientist Sammey -17 2013-10-08 15:15:26 1 Bought 5/8 of a BTC from me CITM. Well packaged.
10161 Mad7Scientist Coolio- -27 2012-04-06 20:26:22 2 Bought 4.30 BTC from me and sent me cash in the mail in a well packaged envelope.
30581 Mad7Scientist tim-tams -46 2013-09-26 18:47:09 3 1 BTC trade sent me CITM. I sent first. Well packed.
23629 Mad7Scientist Supa -675 2013-04-18 16:19:21 -9 I don't know why they allow this account to negrate everyone